[nem-en] Scala: what you say about it?

Mark Haniford markhaniford at gmail.com
Sun Nov 19 21:57:34 CET 2006


On 11/19/06, Michal Moskal <michal.moskal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 11/19/06, Igor Tkachev <it at rsdn.ru> wrote:
> > Well, I think I should ask more general question. What are your plans
> > regarding the future of Nemerle, guys? How far are you going to go
> > with it? Is this just a scientific project or you consider / would see
> > Nemerle as one of mainstream languages?
>
>
> The next problem is that it runs on .NET, which is very unlikely to be
> seen as an advantage by the open source/linux people (especially when
> you consider the recent Novell-Microsoft deal; Miguel told me once he
> had received literal death threats in the past...). OTOH the .NET
> thing is likely to be seen as an advantage by more reasonable folks,
> so it might be a plus. And don't get me wrong -- I understand that
> .NET compatibility is one of the main reasons Nemerle is so cool of an
> language, I'm just looking at it from the ,,public relations'' side.


Well,   I guess it has to be brought up at this point, but Scala also runs
on .NET, so what kind of possibly herculean effort would it take to get
Nemerle working on the JVM.  I guess it would really be somewhat of a fork
with parts of the two projects shared.  Scala seems like a decent language,
(but as noted), doesn't have macros and the syntax seems a little quirky
compared to Nemerle.  Don't get me wrong, I think .NET/Mono is technically
superior to the JVM, and I despise the politics behind a lot of the linux
open source zealots, but now that Java is being open-sourced, Nemerle would
hands-down be the most powerful language on that platform.

And this might be a bit controversial, but .NET developers tend to stick
with what Microsoft is feeding them.  We know how great Nemerle is, but
unless it's something official from Microsoft, then a lot of developers will
just brush it aside.

Anyway, just some thoughts.
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